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Who takes vacations to mexico anymore?. Tourist raped this time.

JBelushi

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The last few years hearing the murders of tourists in resorts and private rented homes. Gang violence plus corrupt officials. Why do people still vacation there?. Really don't these people watch the news.




https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-seeks-culprits-rape-6-spaniards-064427580.html


ACAPULCO, Mexico (AP) — Armed, masked men who raped sixSpanish tourists in the Mexican resort of Acapulco spared the lone Mexican woman in the group because of her nationality, adding yet another macabre twist to the case that has further hurt the resort's already battered reputation.

It was unclear whether the group of 12 Spaniards who fell prey to the attack had been targeted because of their nationality in the three-hour ordeal at a rented house on a tranquil beach dotted with restaurants, small hotels and rental homes. Most of the six men and six women live in Mexico City and were vacationing in Acapulco.

The five attackers burst into the house and held the group at gunpoint, said Acapulco Mayor Luis Walton. They tied up the six men with phone cords and bathing suit straps and then raped the six Spanish women.

Walton said the Spaniards had been "escorted," apparently under police protection, out of Acapulco on Tuesday.
Guerrero state Attorney General Martha Garzon told local media that the attackers' motive was "robbery, and to have fun," and they drank mescal they found at the house after committing the rapes. The lone Mexican woman, who's married to one of the Spaniards, "was saved by the fact that she is Mexican."

"She says she identified herself to the (attackers) and asked not to be raped, and they told her that she had passed the test by being Mexican and they didn't touch her," Garzon told Radio Formula.

While some Mexicans harbor resentment against Spaniards dating to colonial times, the Spaniards may have been targeted for other reasons, like their appearance or possessions.

Authorities and residents of Acapulco struggled to come to terms with the attack and its near-certain effect on the area's tourism industry, amid concerns that such violence could affect the draw of other, safer Mexican resorts.

Walton rushed to apologize Wednesday for his comment from Monday that "this happens everywhere in the world, not just in Acapulco or in Mexico."
"I apologize for having said that," he said Wednesday. "Of course this worries us and we don't want anything like this to happen in Acapulco or anywhere else in the world."
He added, "We know this is going to affect our tourism."

It's not clear how much interest there was in Acapulco among international tourists even before the Monday attacks, despite a major effort announced last year by business magnate Carlos Slim, the world's richest man, to rescue Acapulco by building parks and recreational centers.

Oceania and Regent Seven Seas Cruises, some of the last lines making port calls at Acapulco, cancelled them in December, the company confirmed.
The violence has included drug gang shootouts along the resort's main coastal boulevard and the dumping of severed heads on city streets.

But the early Monday attack exposed a security situation so bad that horrific violence was possible even in areas that appear relatively safe, like the laid-back stretch of beach southeast of the city's center where the Spaniards rented the house.

The manager of a small hotel near the house said he heard shouting during the attack just after midnight Monday, but did nothing because he felt it would be too dangerous. The man did want to give his name for safety reasons.

Other Mexican resorts continue to welcome tens of millions of international visitors every year, even as foreign tourism has largely vanished in Acapulco. Some feared the chilling effect of Monday's attack will be felt elsewhere.

"We are definitely not as contaminated with the crime issue as other states in Mexico," said Juan Carlos Gonzalez, tourism secretary of Quintana Roo, the Caribbean coast state where Cancun is located and which hosted about 17 million tourists last year. "We are really sorry about what happened with the Spanish tourists ... because in one way or another, it is something that affects Mexico's image."

"Apart from the illegal activities that occur between drug gangs, the idea that they would attack some tourist, that would hurt all the efforts we are making."
He said his state "certainly could have some cancellations, but given the number of Spanish tourists, it would not be significant."

Rafael Gallego Nadal, president of the Spanish Confederation of Travel Agencies, said the vast majority of the 50,000 Spaniards who head to Mexico every year travel to the Caribbean coast — and not to the Acapulco area that has been beset by drug violence for decades.

"This was a terrible attack but it's not the first time that something bad has happened in that part of Mexico. We Spaniards go to the Mexican Riviera" in and around Cancun, he said. "For us, this is an incredibly safe zone."

Gallego noted that most members of the group attacked are believed to be Spaniards living in Mexico City, and that Acapulco is a much bigger draw for domestic Mexican tourism than it is for international visitors.

Many Spaniards will go to Mexico during the long Easter Week vacation, and Gallego said he's heard no talk from travel agencies or groups about reducing package tour prices because of the rapes.

Kathy Gerhardt, a spokeswoman for Travel Leaders, a network of independently owned and operated travel agencies in the U.S., said events in Acapulco barely registers on U.S. tourists' radar anymore. "Those individuals trying to lump Acapulco into the list of top Mexico destinations U.S. travelers visit are misinformed. It has been decades since it was a hot tourist destination; today it is more of a destination for Mexican nationals rather than U.S. tourists."

In the group's recent survey of over 1,000 travel agency owner, managers and agents, "not a single individual chose Acapulco as a top international destination they are booking for their clients," Gerhardt wrote in an email, adding "we do not see any 'spillover effect'" for areas like Cancun, which Travel Leaders lists as the number-two foreign destination for U.S. travelers, after Caribbean island cruises.

Gallego said it's important for Mexican authorities to make arrests soon to prove that they can punish those responsible. Garzon, the state prosecutor, said "we have strong evidence to lead us to those responsible for this reprehensible act."

Acapulco is the granddaddy of Mexican resorts. Elizabeth Taylor was married there, John F. and Jackie Kennedy came on their honeymoon, and Howard Hughes spent his later years hiding out in a suite at the Princess Hotel, a pyramid-shaped icon in the exclusive Punta Diamante, or Diamond Point, zone.

Beheadings and drug gang shootouts, some on the city's main seaside boulevard, became more frequent after 2006, as gangs fought for control of the city's drug and extortion business.
 
I think it depends on what part of Mexico one is looking at. The west and north, closer to the US border is probably not going to happen for me. The peninsula, Cancun, Merida, etc. is still good.
 
oldguyzer said:
Never understood why people like that green shit...:good:

cuz it's delicious....

But honestly, I didn't read the whole article, just responding to the title, ummm hate to break it to you but people visit canada all the time and people are raped and murdered and robbed here, often daily. People visit florida and people are robbed, raped and murdered there daily.

The only difference is rape murder and robberies here and in the US aren't a new thing or as well publicized......

check out the stats on US crime rates for the year 2011:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
 
tboy said:
cuz it's delicious....

But honestly, I didn't read the whole article, just responding to the title, ummm hate to break it to you but people visit canada all the time and people are raped and murdered and robbed here, often daily. People visit florida and people are robbed, raped and murdered there daily.

The only difference is rape murder and robberies here and in the US aren't a new thing or as well publicized......

check out the stats on US crime rates for the year 2011:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

I realize the subject is not a laughing matter but I gotta laugh at tboys annologies - firstly if 6 TOURIST women at once got raped and another few TOURISTS or FOREIGNERS got killed every day and I mean everyday in Florida or Canada then do you think we would still have visitors on the regular? In our parts this would be an outrage and the criminals hunted down, there its just another day.

Anybody who goes to Mehico is an eeediot. It's a fuckward country. Sure there is crime everywhere, Mexico is top in the tourist destinations.
 
tboy said:
But honestly, I didn't read the whole article, just responding to the title, ummm hate to break it to you but people visit canada all the time and people are raped and murdered and robbed here, often daily. People visit florida and people are robbed, raped and murdered there daily.

The only difference is rape murder and robberies here and in the US aren't a new thing or as well publicized......

If you visit warzone(s) like Mexico and places in the USA, sure.
Some places in Canada are warzones that should be avoided.

But we are way safer than Mexico.
 
tboy said:
cuz it's delicious....

But honestly, I didn't read the whole article, just responding to the title, ummm hate to break it to you but people visit canada all the time and people are raped and murdered and robbed here, often daily. People visit florida and people are robbed, raped and murdered there daily.

The only difference is rape murder and robberies here and in the US aren't a new thing or as well publicized......

check out the stats on US crime rates for the year 2011:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate


Aside from the minor point that our criminal elements don't seek out tourists, there's also the comfort that our law enforcement officials aren't bribed as a matter of course,
 
RAWD said:
Aside from the minor point that our criminal elements don't seek out tourists, there's also the comfort that our law enforcement officials aren't bribed as a matter of course,


as I said, I didn't read the entire article but I am assuming the tourists were targeted specifically? But compared to the number of locals raped, what's the number?

As for police being bribed, ummmm you hear all the time about cops in the news being on the take so I wouldn't be so quick to say they aren't......
 
Tboy

in the case of Mexico where drug cartels control the region, the police are not so much taking bribes as much as protecting their families.

Cartels are not known for accepting any interference with their business.
 
tboy said:
as I said, I didn't read the entire article but I am assuming the tourists were targeted specifically? But compared to the number of locals raped, what's the number?

As for police being bribed, ummmm you hear all the time about cops in the news being on the take so I wouldn't be so quick to say they aren't......

There are dirty cops, yes, but a very very small minority. Most of these other places it's the exact opposite ratio of good to bad.
 
I go there every year and not once have I felt unsafe. I stick to the east coast area of Cancun and Playa Del Carmen.

Wouldnt take my kids down there as there really isnt much for them to do but I have no hesitation in going. The border of Mexico and the US, the west coast and major cities I've no interest in visiting as they are IMHO unsafe.
 
I had forgotten I bought El Narco by Ioan Grillo off Amazon. I started reading it last night. From the prologue:


"Mexican special-force soldiers became mercenaries for gangsters. Businessmen who used to pay off corrupt officials had to pay off mobsters. Police forces turn on one another - sometimes breaking out into full-on interagency shoot-outs..."

In an interview with an incarcerated lieutenant in one of the cartels, "He was leading heavily armed troops in urban warfare against rival gangs. He was carrying out mass kidnappings..controlling safe houses...He was working with high ranking city police officers but fighting pitched battles against federal agents...."

Sorry Tboy. There is no comparison between corruption in Mexico and corruption in North America.

Although, the author cites a study that says Mexico City has a lower annual homicide rate than Chicago, New Orleans or Detroit. The violence is largely in the states.



@ Shiek - I agree, sort of. Even in Tijuana, I never felt physically unsafe. But, I sure as hell felt like the locals would not hesitate to rip me off or extort me.
 
Only in Mexico you say.

A nine-year-old girl in Mexico gave birth last month and authorities are searching for the father, who's believed to be 17, AFP reports.
The girl, known as Dafne, delivered by C-section on Jan. 27 a baby girl who weighed 5.7 pounds. The baby was delivered in a hospital, but Dafne hadn't received any previous medical treatment for her pregnancy.
"It is dismaying that a young girl became pregnant. You shouldn't be pregnant at that age," said Enrique Rabago, director of the Occidente General Hospital in Zapopan, where the baby was born.
Rabago told reporters a C-section was done because it was safer for the mother and baby.

Mother and child were in good condition, AFP reported, and will have extensive follow-up care because of the mother's age.
State prosecutors told AFP Dafne said she has consensual sex and was in a relationship with the father, but officials describe it as a case of rape or child abuse.
Dafne's mother said the girl became pregnant at age eight and the father is 17.

AFP reports that the father offered to live with Dafne when he learned of the pregnancy, but she refused and he ran away.
A source told AFP Dafne is from a village 30 kilometres from Guadalajara and is one of 11 siblings.
A reproductive specialist told AFP that pregnancies in girls between 10 and 12 years old are commonly due to rape, adding physical immaturity puts girls at higher risk.




https://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/06/girl-9-gives-birth-in-mexico
 
I go frequently around the Mayan Riv.

I think it is reasonably safe in certain areas. I would not go to Acapulco or along the US border or towns controlled by the cartels.

The travel warnings by government agencies exclude Cancun, the Mayan Riv. etc.
 
It's better in Jamaica man.

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