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Trouble finding a companion without a reference

Fakker

Senior Member
Hi,

I have been following different threads on this forum so wanted to discuss a dilemma I have been facing:

I want to hire a companion in Toronto area but all the good companions I stumble upon want a reference, now the problem is: how I would get a reference when I haven’t done this before? So going to ask senior members of this forum if anyone could recommend a companion who’s welcoming towards new clients. One of the other problems I am facing is belonging to brown ethnicity. Most companions upon hearing this become skeptical to the extent they are not willing to offer dfk etc. services. How can I convince a companion that I am a gentleman who knows how to clean up. Of course a reference would help but again, how would I get a reference if I don’t get to hire a companion.

I would really appreciate some insights.
 
Majority of the members here will recommend you go the agency route and that may be your best bet.
However, if you’ve done your research and are interested in a particular person, you should contact them with similar to what you posted here. Most are willing to work with you through the reference process and find something that will work for both of you as long as you correspond like a gentleman.
As for your ethnicity being an issue with some, you should do your research in this matter as well and choose someone where this won’t matter. All the best!
 

Fakker

Senior Member
Thank you for your reply. Yes I have been researching for the last couple of months, I swear I can write a book or thesis on this..

The problem I find with agencies is, I believe it’s a hit and miss when it comes to chemistry, and chemistry is a big thing for me. I would prefer an independent companion because during the screening process you’ll know exactly what you’ll get and the conversation adds to building up a bit of mental connection.

I think I’ll just keep looking until I find the perfect one. Thanks again
 
Fakker;n1464910 said:
Thank you for your reply. Yes I have been researching for the last couple of months, I swear I can write a book or thesis on this..

The problem I find with agencies is, I believe it’s a hit and miss when it comes to chemistry, and chemistry is a big thing for me. I would prefer an independent companion because during the screening process you’ll know exactly what you’ll get and the conversation adds to building up a bit of mental connection.

I think I’ll just keep looking until I find the perfect one. Thanks again
Aww! I think it would be lovely if you would start a thread on your process so far. Caerf doesn’t laud out degrees afaik though hehehe.
I completely agree with you about the connection created leading up to the date. I have booked through an agency myself many moons ago and while it was an awesome experience in the end, it paled when compared to similar experiences going the Indy route.
 
There are things you can do.

I have had clients that did not have references. We have sometimes worked out other arrangements for screening. What has started the ball rolling was a very thoughtful and polite email explaining why you don't have a reference. From there I would decide if I am willing to discuss options.

Most clients have other forms of screening available. LinkedIn profiles, board accounts, social media accounts, work verification, etc. I personally require something else, I never go just on blind faith. I use to offer a social date, but the dangers are just too high. Time wasters, stalking clients, etc. I personally don't offer email money transfer so I don't accept deposits. I don't recommend them either.

Once you get that one reference out of the way, the rest should fall into place.

You could always find a lady with lower screening levels and start there. Just make sure any escort you see is one who is willing to provide references. Not all providers are.

GL
 

Fakker

Senior Member
Sorry for a late reply, this is a busy month for me, relocating due to a job change. Ifuseekamy, yes I will do a thread once I have a successful encounter, it might become a how-to for ppl in similar situations. JennyT, yes that’s a nice idea but I don’t want to pose as a time waster...again not all companions want to allocate time for a “possible” client and I respect that. Jessica Rain, yes LinkedIn profile is something I have to work on, I haven’t updated it in awhile and I see many companions ask it as a reference alternative.. I also made an account on terb last night and I intend to become a more active member on both forums. Thank you so much for all the replies.
 

cristy

Active member
I hope you find what you are looking for and don't dismay. there are many lovely ladies willing to accommodate "newbies". Know that we all prefer to be contacted in different ways. so sending an email to some might not be acceptable, some may prefer calls to texts, etc.The contact protocol will be listed in ads and or websites. Many ladies do expect a deposit, and I wouldn't be put off by that if she is an established companion. Most have websites, and those have enough information to give you a sense as to whether or not that companion would be suitable for you. But my suggestion, is never meet with someone you haven't had a verbal conversation with. Talking to someone via the phone can reveal a lot that texts and emails will not. Best of luck.
 
Fakker;n1465080 said:
Jessica Rain, yes LinkedIn profile is something I have to work on, I haven’t updated it in awhile and I see many companions ask it as a reference alternative.. I also made an account on **** last night and I intend to become a more active member on both forums. Thank you so much for all the replies.
Being active on forums helps with some ladies. Just know that for others, it is a red flag. Like everything in life, what works for one, doesn't work for another.

So to cover all basis, may I also suggest a twitter account. That is another way to carry a social online presence. If you can manage it. Don't get all these accounts if they are not something you are going to keep up with. At least with Twitter, you don't have to post. Retweet, like and following are pretty simple.

And remember to set your own limits as well. For what you feel comfortable with. Some men don't feel comfortable giving certain info, and that is fine. Do what feels right to you and know when you should not bother negotiating with an SP's screening requirements.

For example, speaking for myself, I require name, phone number {non-text app}, email address, SP reference and one other type of verification. If you are the type not willing to give me a phone number, there is no point in asking another verification type in lieu of an SP reference because you are already saying no to one of my hard limit requests.

So make sure you do your research. Know your limits, no to giving ID, no to deposits, no to giving a real phone number, etc - whichever yours are and then move on from the ones that are just not going to work. Politely requesting an alternative to one type of screening is a lot different than simply not being able to meet most of the requirements. That is what most of the ladies get annoyed with when being asked alternatives.

There are hundreds of ladies out here working. There are many more men looking. Neither side needs to give more then they are comfortable with as there is always another available. When you find that you are not a match with one, move on to the next. Once you get past your first couple of escorts, booking becomes child's play.

Just remember to share back with the community.
 
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cristy

Active member
Never "share with the community" unless and until you've first checked with the escort you've seen..There are many who have a no review policy, and those policies are to be respected. We all do things differently. So please always speak to your chosen escort to find his or her preferred ways of doing things:)
 
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nntsci

Reviewer
"The problem I find with agencies is, I believe it?€™s a hit and miss when it comes to chemistry, and chemistry is a big thing for me. I would prefer an independent companion because during the screening process you?€™ll know exactly what you?€™ll get and the conversation adds to building up a bit of mental connection."

I mostly use agencies. I've never had a problem finding lovely ladies at agencies... I find the in person search for a real connection to be a lot of fun... and have found real connections with a number of ladies over the years.

Also at least two indies took my posts on forums such as CAERF as sufficient reference. For one lady, we had been corresponding on line for a couple of months before I happened to be coming to her town and as to see her... and oh she was fun.
 
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