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Wanker

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Analme said:
Read Melody's fantastic post. We as a community should be sticking together to fight the Anti's not battling one another with this high and might attitude under the guise of being the perfect client.

Agree.
 

dawnlee

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Joined Feb 8, 2016
Messages 3
thanks for the shout-out! i usually don't use this forum but i've gotten some reviews and mentions here so finally hopped on. although jesus does this site need a revamping, it's like geocities 1999 up in this b.

i totally agree with the SPs-who-can't-handle-contrary-opinions thing. i have thick skin and i never block anyone (i prefer to use healthy debate to conquer my combatants), but god are there some over-sensitive SPs out there. they love to talk big but once you point out the obvious flaws in their viewpoints and the holes in their intellect, it's just "block block block". twitter is great because on the one hand it promotes free speech, but some people (SJWs in particular) like to treat it as an echo chamber instead of using it to expose themselves to fresh ideas and perspectives they so desperately need.
 

Analme

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Joined Aug 7, 2011
Messages 2,026
Ladies That Do Not Pass My Screening on Twitter

Ladies That Do Not Pass My Screening on Twitter

I rule out many many women based on their twitter feeds. I also look at what most of them re-tweet.

Here is an example that constantly comes up and as consumers these are the type of entitled providers that have a chip on their shoulder and we should avoid. We have so many beautiful women who deserve our money why do we want to give it to providers who view their potential clients with disdain.

"What are your rates?"
SHOULD I NOT KNOW HOW MUCH"What do you offer?"
DO I NOT NEED TO KNOW WHAT I'M PAYING FOR"Where is your incall located?"
WHAT IF IT'S TOO FAR FOR ME"Are those your real pics?"
GIVES ME A REASON TO WALK IF YOU LIE

These in my opinion are all valid questions. This is a service industry and maybe some of us are too busy to read every word on a website and most sites no longer state menu, approx. location of incall or the fact that most pics are so glamorized and photoshopped that in essence we are not getting the lady being advertised.


 
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cristycurves

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There are some of us who use twitter, review boards, etc as entertainment/time killers, etc and not just places to advertise or to lure clients. Not everything we do is about making money.
But when ladies seek clients on sites, they use your same methods to rule out particular types of clientele...

person A asks "what are your rates", when they are clearly advertised on website and or in the ads- response-ignore, if he is to lazy to read all the ad or website, we have to wonder , is he really interested in meeting me and imagine what else he is lazy about, so why would we want to meet him?
person A asks-"where are you located"-often times approximate area is never enough, many expect to be given exact addresses, without them even divulging a name-response-ignore
Person A asks-"what do you offer"-are you aware of billc36-you now pay for our time.....if explicit sexual questions are asked-response-ignore. Read a persons website, ads, reco's, reviews. If you can't then glean from those the type of encounter you'll have with that person, move onto someone else.
Person A asks "are those pics real" again do your research, tineye and google image search are your friend. Those who use fake pics or who are out to deceive, aren't going to admit it. If you show up and the person you meet isn't the person pictured, you owe no one an explanation as to why you are going to leave, you have every right to leave. I think when you contact a provider you should want to develop a rapport, to have a conversation, not an interview. But we all do things differently:)

So maybe instead of spending time deciding who you don't want to see and what they do wrong, put more time into something more positive, like admiring those you like and why. This is a service industry, but, one that provides a service unlike any other, so comparing it to or having expectations of other service industries really doesn't apply and gentlemen can better their chances of positive feedback by simply doing their homework, due diligence and by acting like gentlemen. How you approach us determines how we'll approach you in return:) Attitude usually garners attitude, respect garners respect, and politeness garners politeness, etc,etc:)
 

Olivia Grace

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Joined Aug 27, 2015
Messages 228
There are some of us who use twitter, review boards, etc as entertainment/time killers, etc and not just places to advertise or to lure clients. Not everything we do is about making money.
But when ladies seek clients on sites, they use your same methods to rule out particular types of clientele...

person A asks "what are your rates", when they are clearly advertised on website and or in the ads- response-ignore, if he is to lazy to read all the ad or website, we have to wonder , is he really interested in meeting me and imagine what else he is lazy about, so why would we want to meet him?
person A asks-"where are you located"-often times approximate area is never enough, many expect to be given exact addresses, without them even divulging a name-response-ignore
Person A asks-"what do you offer"-are you aware of billc36-you now pay for our time.....if explicit sexual questions are asked-response-ignore. Read a persons website, ads, reco's, reviews. If you can't then glean from those the type of encounter you'll have with that person, move onto someone else.
Person A asks "are those pics real" again do your research, tineye and google image search are your friend. Those who use fake pics or who are out to deceive, aren't going to admit it. If you show up and the person you meet isn't the person pictured, you owe no one an explanation as to why you are going to leave, you have every right to leave. I think when you contact a provider you should want to develop a rapport, to have a conversation, not an interview. But we all do things differently:)

So maybe instead of spending time deciding who you don't want to see and what they do wrong, put more time into something more positive, like admiring those you like and why. This is a service industry, but, one that provides a service unlike any other, so comparing it to or having expectations of other service industries really doesn't apply and gentlemen can better their chances of positive feedback by simply doing their homework, due diligence and by acting like gentlemen. How you approach us determines how we'll approach you in return:) Attitude usually garners attitude, respect garners respect, and politeness garners politeness, etc,etc:)
This x 1000. Often we can't tell you where the incall is as it's a security risk. No guy is too important to be screened. "But I'm handsome and 40 ish and I work out!" Guess what - I don't fucking care. I care how you approach me and my website and if you have the ability to read the whole thing bc I honestly shouldn't have to explain things more than once.

The website is there for a reason, and as long as you continue with that attitude you will not get laid bc guess what? We indies talk to each other.

PS. IT'S ACTUALLY ILLEGAL TO POST THINGS THAT I DO after the passage of c36 into law, and would you like fries with that? I'm not a pizza joint sweetie. I'm a human being like you. Treat sexworkers as such or you will never get a date.

I'm just trying to help you improve your attitude. It can do wonders. And READ THE WEBSITE.

Xoxo
Olivia

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Capo

Reviewer
Joined Jun 16, 2012
Messages 317
This x 1000. Often we can't tell you where the incall is as it's a security risk. No guy is too important to be screened. "But I'm handsome and 40 ish and I work out!" Guess what - I don't fucking care. I care how you approach me and my website and if you have the ability to read the whole thing bc I honestly shouldn't have to explain things more than once.

The website is there for a reason, and as long as you continue with that attitude you will not get laid bc guess what? We indies talk to each other.

PS. IT'S ACTUALLY ILLEGAL TO POST THINGS THAT I DO after the passage of c36 into law, and would you like fries with that? I'm not a pizza joint sweetie. I'm a human being like you. Treat sexworkers as such or you will never get a date.

I'm just trying to help you improve your attitude. It can do wonders. And READ THE WEBSITE.

Xoxo
Olivia

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Good answer and wow
 
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Fuggedabouditt

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It's dumb to think you can get screened by an anonymous username.
BUT, I could also make up a persona to get screened by.
 

RubberRagDoll

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Advertiser
Joined Jun 10, 2016
Messages 35
Customer service starts at first interaction with any job.
Yes, it can be quite irritating answering what may seem like obvious information to you, but there will always be someone who missed it, or were even too lazy to check. It’s still your job to answer the questions if you care and want the best results for your business.
Before transitioning into sex work I worked in a clothing store that had huge sales quite often. There would be giant bright red "50% off entire store" signs throughout, yet I would still have customers asking me what the sales for today were. It was my job to politely answer their (what to me seemed like incredibly stupid) questions. I couldn’t tell them to “look around and figure it out”, I would be complained about and fired.

"What are your rates?”

*Inhale.. exhale..*

“My rates are
xxx for 1h
xxx for 2h
xxx for 3h
If you have any further questions please view my website or FAQ page at [link here] first which should answer most of your curiosities.
Thank you!"

The simple questions are never going to stop no matter how clear you are on your ads or website. It is your choice to provide either excellent or poor customer service.

Now I'm not talking about intrusive questions such as incall address and services, I'm talking basic questions like "when are you available?", etc.
 

Rob_Latex

Member
Joined Dec 9, 2009
Messages 18
I think we're missing the point as to who is the client, and who is the SERVICE provider. Sure, guys ask stupid questions all the time, that could easily be answered by a peek at an SP's website.

But, I also sense that some SP's view answering emails as a chore, rather than an opportunity to sell themselves further. As someone told me, SERVICE starts at the first contact, not when you walk into the bedroom.

If SPs get those annoying emails, just answer the questions you feel comfortable with, or answer them in the way you choose. "Answer the questions you WISHED were asked".

For example, if they ask for location, say "Yonge and Bloor" - I don't think anyone wants a specific address.
 

Analme

Reviewer
Joined Aug 7, 2011
Messages 2,026
The website is there for a reason, and as long as you continue with that attitude you will not get laid bc guess what? We indies talk to each other.

Mirage, SexyFriends, TopDrawer, JerseyGirls, Sassy, EyeCandy, TorontoGirlfriends, TorontoPassions, Garden Of Eden, Cupids....no offense Olivia but do you really believe I'm worried about not getting laid for less hassle, less money and probably less attitude?

When I pay I don't expect to have to deal with a WE (wife experience) sorry but it's my opinion and I'll stick to it and yes Guido I was hurt. I was told by an escort that I should be a man and have a hairy chest like Guido. It cut deep, it really did.
 
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User-E

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I always try to be polite and professional when responding to inquiries from potential new clients. No need to be a bitch because a newbie doesn't know his way around.
 

Analme

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Joined Aug 7, 2011
Messages 2,026
I always try to be polite and professional when responding to inquiries from potential new clients. No need to be a bitch because a newbie doesn't know his way around.

Exactly my point. I'm sure the veterans who know the game know how to play it if they desire to book an independent.
 
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User-E

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Exactly my point. I'm sure the veterans who know the game know how to play it if they desire to book an independent.

I used to work as a receptionist at a church, and they had a very high standard of professionalism. I learned how to deal with every incoming call and remain polite no matter who I was dealing with. Damn-Not too smart

Even when I'm busy or not accepting new clients, I still respond and thank them, and ask them to try again another time.
 

Olivia Grace

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Advertiser
Joined Aug 27, 2015
Messages 228
I used to work as a receptionist at a church, and they had a very high standard of professionalism. I learned how to deal with every incoming call and remain polite no matter who I was dealing with. Damn-Not too smart

Even when I'm busy or not accepting new clients, I still respond and thank them, and ask them to try again another time.
Because I read this as now having descended into an attack on me (which could or could not be the case) here is why I don't care too much:

Not a lot of my guys come from the boards. I am very professional over email and don't view answering them as a chore.

Until the person books with me and we start the screening process I tend to not care as much. Most of the guys on here are agency guys anyway.

I could continue but I'm outside and my hands are freezing. I just want everyone to be the best version of themselves. If that includes a bit of tough love, I don't mind dishing it out.

Xoxo
Olivia

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User-E

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Because I read this as now having descended into an attack on me (which could or could not be the case) here is why I don't care too much:

Not a lot of my guys come from the boards. I am very professional over email and don't view answering them as a chore.

Until the person books with me and we start the screening process I tend to not care as much. Most of the guys on here are agency guys anyway.

I could continue but I'm outside and my hands are freezing. I just want everyone to be the best version of themselves. If that includes a bit of tough love, I don't mind dishing it out.

Xoxo
Olivia

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I didn't quote you did I?

See, I know you're talking about me because you quoted me.
 
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Fuggedabouditt

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Because I read this as now having descended into an attack on me (which could or could not be the case) here is why I don't care too much:

Not a lot of my guys come from the boards. I am very professional over email and don't view answering them as a chore.

Until the person books with me and we start the screening process I tend to not care as much. Most of the guys on here are agency guys anyway.

I could continue but I'm outside and my hands are freezing. I just want everyone to be the best version of themselves. If that includes a bit of tough love, I don't mind dishing it out.

Xoxo
Olivia

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I followed you on Twitter when I was an active participant. I followed you because you looked intriguing and "my physical type" that usually leads to me finding out a little bit more about you. As an independent and charging more than agencies, I want to make sure that my money is being well spent. After following you and viewing some of your comments and opinions, I chose not to see you as I think you have a (quite frankly) entitled attitude. Bitching people out on Twitter can only hurt you in my eyes. I know you won't cry about me not booking you and not being a fan, IDGAF to be honest. But I'm sure I'm not the only one that might feel this way about you...come on in WK's.

On another note, I'm happy to provide references. I'm not sure how I would go about doing this with the agency ladies I see and even those that I see off agency time. There are a couple that have worked for Allegra that might be happy to provide references, but I don't use a board name to book and I never use my real name and number with someone who's not willing to share same. Given that, I'm happy not to go through all that trouble; I know I'm not a danger to anyone but I understand the safety measures....I've covered this in another thread, in fact, I've covered all of this in other threads. :)
 

Olivia Grace

Well-known member
Advertiser
Joined Aug 27, 2015
Messages 228
I followed you on Twitter when I was an active participant. I followed you because you looked intriguing and "my physical type" that usually leads to me finding out a little bit more about you. As an independent and charging more than agencies, I want to make sure that my money is being well spent. After following you and viewing some of your comments and opinions, I chose not to see you as I think you have a (quite frankly) entitled attitude. Bitching people out on Twitter can only hurt you in my eyes. I know you won't cry about me not booking you and not being a fan, IDGAF to be honest. But I'm sure I'm not the only one that might feel this way about you...come on in WK's.

On another note, I'm happy to provide references. I'm not sure how I would go about doing this with the agency ladies I see and even those that I see off agency time. There are a couple that have worked for Allegra that might be happy to provide references, but I don't use a board name to book and I never use my real name and number with someone who's not willing to share same. Given that, I'm happy not to go through all that trouble; I know I'm not a danger to anyone but I understand the safety measures....I've covered this in another thread, in fact, I've covered all of this in other threads. :)
I am v honest on my Twitter feed and I am absolutely sure that I am not everyone's cup of tea. I know that. "Bitching people out" as you say, is in my view the public spirited thing to do if they are dangerous, so shoot me for trying to protect our community, you included (probably).

I'm confused about what this post is trying to do as you've made it clear before that you won't see me. You have never reached out to me and you never will. Am I supposed to feel bad about "losing" non-existent business? I'm confused by this.

Xoxo
Olivia

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