Olivia Grace said:Dear MAL,
It is still sexist to assume gender roles that existed in the 50s are still valid bc they're not. End of discussion.
Everyone should be treated equally, but that doesn't mean giving up chivalry or not helping - that's just rude.
Plus, if Princess Auto has two men and four women mechanics and is doing well, they've done their job. The same as if a man is hired in a lingerie shop and he is successful, the shop has done their job too.
I certainly hope some people on here see it my way.
JessieJames said:If the job is being done to everyone's satisfaction you are 100% correct.
i.e. I think a gay man would do a great job in a lingerie shop and the ladies would actually feel very comfortable with him, a heterosexual one not so much. You can't remove the urges a individuals and the lust that occurs in one's mind, you can only hope the individual controls them.
As for women fixing cars, absolutely! She's either capable or she's not and this is simple to assess.
MisterAsianLover said:Insane to hire women to work at an auto tool store.
There you go. Put forth a lie because you are a mangina that is need of getting acceptance from a woman.
Women don't work on cars. Go to a repair shop and try to find even 10% of the mechanics being women. It just isnt true.
Peter4025 said:I don't need to get acceptance or approval from anybody. I had several heated arguments with Ms Charlotte regarding subjects that I thought she was wrong. However, when I think she is correct I will say so. I don't care if you or anybody else think I'm a white knight by doing so.
your hatred for women is quite obvious. I'm sorry that you are in an abusive relationship. But don't hate or blame every woman just because of one. You are acting the same way as all those women that blame every man for their abusive relationship or experiences
I hate to disagree. Why should a woman feel uncomfortable by a man selling lingerie? Much of women's fashion is designed by men. A man can learn what works and fits for different body types. Why couldn't we say that men would be uncomfortable buying auto parts from women?
The way I look at it, gender, race and any other category we put each other into shouldn't play into things. Should only African Americans be allowed to work in certain shops. Should only Jews be allowed to work at certain shops? Equality is equality. That means you ignore race, gender and the others and just look at someone's ability. There may be men out there that know a great deal more about lingerie than most women...why is his being a man a problem. For no better reason than wanting a male mechanic than some chick working on your car.
you can't have it both ways.
PS....what about a trans-gendered individual working at the lingerie shop....going to exclude them too?
Women don't work on cars, use tools or fix cars. To proclaim otherwise is nonsense.
Take another example, why are there only women who work at Sephora? Why can't men sell cosmetics as Sephora? It would be absurd to hire men to sell makeup at Sephora.
Well, hiring women, especially as the majority, to work at Princess Auto Parts is ABSURD as well.
Charlotte Edwards said:You're an idiot. When I worked for an automotive audio store there was a female technician who worked on cars.
Charlotte Edwards said:You're an idiot. When I worked for an automotive audio store there was a female technician who worked on cars. She installed remote car starters, stereos, etc. just because you say women don't work on cars doesn't make it so. Plenty of men wear makeup too wether they are gay or straight, take a look at YouTube makeup channels, many men displaying make up how to videos. And yes I have seen men at mac makeup or Sephora. You just want to argue that you're always right, but whatever.
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Prim0 said:Don't get me wrong...I can see your point. But truly having both gender's equal would require us to look past the genders in every situation. Any cherry picking of situations says that the rule cannot be applied equally and therefore there is no equality.
Try to look at it from a man's point of view.
- we are expected to open doors, pay the tab, etc (tradition, chivalry).
- we are expected to be the strong ones.
- we are expected to be the bread winners.
- we are expected to kill the spiders, mice, centipedes.
- we are expected to do this, that and the other, many times to our disadvantage.
But if we expect any expectations from women (traditional or otherwise) we are labeled misogynists.
- men are at an instant disadvantage in divorce, child custody cases and other situations.
- men are pigeonholed into career paths, just like women.
So I'm just trying to point out that if we are going to say we are equal and women should be able to do any job that a man can do....it should include the lingerie shop. Otherwise, be ready to hear from some people that they don't want women mechanics, firefighters, soldiers, doctors or whatever.
Isn't that fair?
In the past, I would often help women at the grocery store who wanted my assistance reaching something or lifting something onto their cart. I was asked often, for I have that boyish charm and 'good-boy' look to myself.
But, then I started thinking, why don't these women have their boyfriends or husbands do these things for them?
So, I started to refuse. I have actually said to some women - 'You should get your man to come shopping with you.'
LisbethNova said:Wow that is really shitty. I would be baffled if I asked for some assistance and you said that. I don't think it's about being a man or woman.. i think its about not being an asshole.