Shower Demands and Appt Time Lost

[MisterAsianLover]

Charlotte,

Nice to talk to you again. I would like to inform you that I am more respectful of escorts and the business they engage in than 99.9% of all the clients you have seen. I will tell you why:

1) I tell all my co-workers, friends and family that I pay escorts for sex.

2) I defend the use of escorts and my use of escorts to those same co-workers, friends and family.

3) I question those co-workers, friends and families as to their behaviour and I ask them to explain how a civilian woman who marries a man with a good career is any different than an escort who wants money from men in exchange for sex. In short, I argue that all women behave as escorts do, not just escorts.

4) When the new law was passed in 2014 - banning men from buying sex; I wrote a letter to my local police department and told them I disagreed with the law. I told them my name, address and drivers licence number, and I told them I would continue to see escorts regardless of the new law. I also offered the police help in locating and helping trafficked girls. I can easily spot trafficked girls on BP, much better than the police can.

5) I lost one of my jobs because I refused to stop seeing or speaking of my activity with escorts. I talk openly about it and I will never stop. If my co-workers have a problem with it, I don`t care. When co-workers ask me `How was your weekend?' I would often reply - 'I saw a great escort on the weekend..............so I had a good weekend!' Some women at work didn't like my response. I told them 'too bad. If you don't want to hear my response, don't ask me questions about what I did in my spare time.' Its always women who have the problem with me seeing escorts, never the men (except Christian men for some reason).

 

[MisterAsianLover]

Thanks Charlotte for sharing this.

Instead of seeing two ladies a week at a "discount" rate, I would much rather see a premium lady like yourself once a week.

That is a great Mangina response dingwall. You made me laugh.

If you really believe that escorts only see 1 - 3 clients a week, I have a bridge to sell you in brooklyn.

 

[Prim0]

Is the 5 minutes you shower really that big of a deal? Are you getting hour long visits or 30 minute visits. Regardless, I see the shower thing as a part of the time requested and factor it in in the first place. But hey, you have a right to your opinion. If you don't want to shower, don't....but you should expect consequences to go with that.

 

[waterloodude]

You should take up yoga to improve your flexibility so if a lady asks you to shower first you can then proceed to lick your crack, ball sack and shaft to show you are fresh. :biggrin2: Spending a few minutes to freshen up so she is comfortable isn't a big deal for me. But seriously if this is an issue for you the simple solution would be to request ahead of time that you'd like to freshen up together at the beginning of your session. If that's not something she offers just move on.

 

[peace]

Rates, , Asian, Orange, white isn't the issue here for me, my issue is having the provider feel comfortable. If spending 5 minutes showering allows for this then for me it shouldn't be a question. It allows for the provider to feel comfortable and definitely helps for a better session it's a win win so why the hell not.

Also let's not assume a lady from China coming here and earning what she perceives as a good living is trafficked because I've spoken to quite a few and they willingly come here knowing the pay and hoping to make $$$$ to take back home, it is their choice.

Charlotte, I think you're a beautiful well intentioned young woman but let's not call for the banning of a member for speaking his mind. It is better to know what a member thinks, especially if he were to book a lady because it allows the provider to assess if she would like to actually service the person. It is obvious most if not all of the clients here disagree with the OP's opinion which in my view bodes well for the ladies but he is entitled to his opinion just like a provider is entitled and should always be to refuse service if a client refuses to shower.

I have to side with Madman on this issue as requesting the mod to ban someone for expressing his own opinions/feelings is a bit too extreme.

 

[thesun]

Wtf. Censorship again????? Ofc I would take a shower beforehand but I am not going to ask the mod to ban MAL because he expressed some concerns. Ridiculous. He is entitled to convey his own opinions. No one is asking you to agree with MAL. If anything I applaud for his honesty.

 

[thesun]

I feel dirty now, I think I need a shower.

Also I just want to hug all those girls. What a shit show it must be at that rate.

I understand but am very surprised you are not aware of this.

 

[thesun]

Girls who charge a higher rate generally don't quibble about 5 min here or there for extra shower time. To expect to get a discounted rate, extra free time or a shower for 2 from over worked ladies who apparently see 10 guys a day is pretty inconsiderate. Everyone knows that service and expectations change when it comes to service fees. Sounds like you're expectations are unrealistic. I'll never understand why "No Drama" (that's his name on the blue board) thinks everyone wants to hear his opinion or that he is always right. You are basically complaining to the wrong people here. There are no Asian agencies on here, and none of the ladies here operate like how you are complaining about. 30+ people a week is likely what traffic victims are forced to see. It really makes me sick that you see these ladies and indulge in their super discounted rate and then complain about them and act like they didn't meet your expectations. You seem to have no real empathy for them. If you did you'd pay them a fair rate. Or you could just see ladies who are paid a decent rate and not forced to see so many clients in a day who aren't going to be concerned with a few minutes of shower time. Heaven forbid you complain about her lack of service because she's worried your junk isn't fresh enough. Sp's don't really know when someone says they showered at home if they did or not. The number of guys who use the washroom after a shower is frightening too. Why risk any uncleanliness at all?

Most non Asian agency girls and indies see far less clients than you suggest. Many of my friends including myself see 1-3 clients most weeks, maybe if touring a few more but then you work less the next week. But for many indies roughly 3 a week is average as we take prebookings only and are not living in a hotel seeing everyone day in and day out. I just think it's so shitty to complain about girls you willingly choose to see just to save money. Do you expect sympathy? I suggest the mods really consider your membership here due to your tendency to cause drama and being a mod on the blue board.


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Perhaps I m wrong or not, I don't think he is asking for sympathy. He is just expressing his opinion. People have a choice to reply or not or cause drama. To consider the proapect of asking the mod to ban him because you don't agree with him is just plain silly.

 

[Edablackwood]

The sun : I'm aware of it. More I feel dirty for having entered into this conversation with someone who willingly sees low rent girls and then had the nerve to complain about it. I want to heard all the 100 or lower girls together and give them a crash course in market and dollar value.

 

[papasmerf]

The sun : I'm aware of it. More I feel dirty for having entered into this conversation with someone who willingly sees low rent girls and then had the nerve to complain about it. I want to heard all the 100 or lower girls together and give them a crash course in market and dollar value.

I believe your opinion clear reflects the opinions of the majority of members.

 

[DannyDeVito]

one must have a shower as soon as u arrive shows u r clean and ready for action who knows she may want to BE YOUR NEW WIFE

 

[CharloteEdwards]

Shower Demands and Appt Time Lost

He will always argue that his opinion is right. I am not lying that 1-3 clients a week is common for a lot of higher priced ladies. I don't appreciate being called a liar. Myself unless I'm touring as I said 1-2 a week is very common. I'm not running an assembly line. And I don't appreciate that No drama constantly makes assumptions that every lady operates like the ones he sees as his price point. The problem is this guy isn't a regular run of the mill member. He is a well known troll who used to work for ***** who is just posting here because he's banned from the blue board. And I'm sorry but so many here did not know at all and after seeing him flood the board with his propaganda and his history on the blue board as an instigator and a mod was pertinent to mention to those who didn't know him.

It's not that I have a problem with differing opinions. I just tire of his misogyny and broad assumptions he makes about all escorts like everyone operates the same. Implying that all escorts see 30 clients a week is offensive. Most us are nowhere near that and it's a bad image to perpetuate which results in some clients treating us badly or like we are dirty or used up.

In some of my poll questions on Twitter I noticed a bug discrepancy between what clients perceive about sex workers and what's actually true. Both independent and agency ladies answered this question. And I think it paints the picture that the AVERAGE amount of clients a week is much lower than many think. Smaller percentage of ladies work every single day and high volume is more a minority than the norm. A lady's body can only take so much. A lot of us adjust our availability and appointments to run our business in a way that is realistic and manageable.

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[cristycurves]

I appreciate your post Charlotte and I support Dillian's comments, I wasn't aware of him being part of that retards(*****) board so thank you for that info that in itself is enough reason to ignore him

 

[Prim0]

Looking at Charlotte's post. Could the results be skewed because the $60 girls that are referenced wouldn't be partaking in the survey for one reason or another?

I'm not trying to argue anything. I'm just wondering. Is it that higher end ladies have fewer but longer dates while the inexpensive ones are going for volume? I can imagine that there are some women who are more successful at one price point than another. In other words (and not trying to be derogatory), could there be "fast food" SPs and "5 star restaurant) SPs? If there is a demand for something, somebody will provide it.

 

[User-E]

Some clients are clock watchers and some are not, just like some SP's are clock watchers and some are not.

 

[CharloteEdwards]

Shower Demands and Appt Time Lost

Prim0 of course it was unlikely an Asian agency girls at that price point No Drama often books at would be on Twitter voting in my poll. But he was making broad generalizations that any sp sees a lot more clients and close to the 30 a week he was arguing. I was just pointing out that there is a huge different based on individuals and price point So it's not dishonest when the ladies who voted mostly see less than 10 clients a week by the vast majority. And most even fewer than that.

Some ladies do price themselves higher to be able to totally control how few clients they see for whatever reason. This industry isn't always about volume for every lady. That is only some. And naturally those who charge less are likely to see more clients to be able to make a living. But it's not a fair representation to argue at any price ($60/hh-$1000/h) ladies are seeing 30 clients a week or more. It's just impossible to be true because at a higher price point there is just less demand for service at higher rates than lower rates. Lower rates means more inquiries and more opportunity to see more clients and that's all.


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[Prim0]

Prim0 of course it was unlikely an Asian agency girls at that price point No Drama often books at would be on Twitter voting in my poll. But he was making broad generalizations that any sp sees a lot more clients and close to the 30 a week he was arguing. I was just pointing out that there is a huge different based on individuals and price point So it's not dishonest when the ladies who voted mostly see less than 10 clients a week by the vast majority. And most even fewer than that.

Some ladies do price themselves higher to be able to totally control how few clients they see for whatever reason. This industry isn't always about volume for every lady. That is only some. And naturally those who charge less are likely to see more clients to be able to make a living. But it's not a fair representation to argue at any price ($60/hh-$1000/h) ladies are seeing 30 clients a week or more. It's just impossible to be true because at a higher price point there is just less demand for service at higher rates than lower rates. Lower rates means more inquiries and more opportunity to see more clients and that's all.


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I think we're arguing the same point. I agree that there is probably a ratio between the price point and the number of appointments/hours per day. I just don't think the less expensive ladies are necessarily going to be on twitter with you.

 

[papasmerf]

One of the ways to view price point is need.
If a sudden needs for higher cash flow arises and there is little time to raise it.
A lower price point to drive up volume is a normal reaction.
Once on solid financial ground the price point can and should be adjusted to provide a more manageable volume.

The trick with lowered price points it to make it look like a limited time offer on an already exceptional value.
That why when the point is moved it is still viewed as a value.