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Al Bumin

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why not just ban all words and live like hermits.

Jesus you are all so sensitive to nothing. Grow up, better things to worry, argue or debate about.

 

Warpainter

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Joined Dec 9, 2017
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With all this talking about transgender rights in school bathrooms, we all forgot about transgender right in school athletics — of course this was going to come up.

Nattaphon Wangyot is a male-to-female transgender senior who goes to Haines High School, she’s also on the girls track and field team. Wangyot also ran fast enough to qualify for the girls 1-2-3A 100-meter and 200-meter finals this Friday afternoon. She was also named an all-state athlete, something the other female atheletes and their parents are furious over.

From :

Transgender equality has become a hot topic of discussion around the country, and Alaska is no exception. The Alaska Schools Activities Association recently implemented a policy to allow individual school districts to decide if a transgender athlete can compete in a sport as the gender they identify with.

“We didn’t want to necessarily create a situation where we were going to bring in a committee and those types of things just because it’s just not practical here,” said ASAA Executive Director Billy Strickland during Friday’s meet.


 
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cristycurves

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Should be kept quiet...hmmmm like prostitution? I personally believe it should be legalized but that's another matter here.

If I am hiring an escort, I would appreciate very much if he/she would be upfront if she was a male before. No judgment here but it would be nice to know. I have a preference just like you and many others. I prefer to fuck a natural vagina. I prefer real boobs than fake ones. I am paying my well earned money and it is my choice. When i see an escort, i want a natural looking woman. Period

Meanwhile, if you want to switch gender, I couldnt care less. People make their own choices to be happy.

Yes bigoted, phobic, hate driven opinions should be kept quiet, how that is relevant and akin to the legalities of prostitution isHmmmmmm in your mind, I suppose.... the same:no:, lol, anyhow..... please tell me what fucking an *unnatural* vaginal feels like:) As most who prefer one thing over another usually do so when they've experienced both. "No judgement here", you sayHmmmmmm......yet your whole post reeks of it. There are many, many transgender men and women, who've had top and bottom surgery, and who then look as much like their chosen gender as their natural counterparts, you couldn't tell the difference. So how do you know you haven't "fucked" an "unnatural vagina":) Bottom line, your "hard earned" money is also "hard earned" by the provider you "choose" and you choose that person based on your qualifications, so if you mistake a "unnatural" woman, as you refer to them, that's on you, not them:)I suppose you'd then demand your money back, or perhaps after knowing you, they may demand theirs back, lol. People do make choices, you choose, they choose and life goes on. Simply because your money is difficult to earn, simply because you are the purchaser doesn't entitle you to more rights than the one selling. If you expect full disclosure from them, you should then expect to offer full disclosure, but..... I suppose your hard earned money entitles you to discretion:)
Btw, your last line was a very poor try at an insult, but you do try, lol. I'm very happy being a natural born woman and also very happy to accept those transitioning,without judgement, to them I say.... more power to your courage, and even more power for knowing who you truly are and need to be:)
 
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cristycurves

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Males and females aren't just physically different, their brains are also different. Having surgery on the outside doesn't change how they are built are on the inside.

When guys see a female SP, I assume they want to connect to a female brain, not just a female body.

https://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ?page=2

But isn't that the whole reason people transition....... they were born with the wrong anatomy, not the wrong brains. But since I don't know the true biology, physiology of those transitioning or needing and wanting to, I can't speak to specifics. I will say that I do think some guys who are claiming the "right to know" are being homophobic and self righteous, but that's just how I see it:)
 

Analme

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But isn't that the whole reason people transition....... they were born with the wrong anatomy, not the wrong brains. But since I don't know the true biology, physiology of those transitioning or needing and wanting to, I can't speak to specifics. I will say that I do think some guys who are claiming the "right to know" are being homophobic and self righteous, but that's just how I see it:)

This is the problem, so my desire to only be intimate with a natural born female is not important.

I have no rights to who I choose to have a sexual encounter with?

As a heterosexual male why are my rights eroded and crushed by the politically correct left and why is this ok?

I don't deprive anyone to be who they want to be but I believe I do have a right to say whom I choose to be intimate with.
 

Maurice Boscorelli

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Joined May 30, 2010
Messages 19,337
Thank you, I appreciate the respect:) It's fine to disagree, but really, a pussy is a pussy, a penis a penis, so what difference does it make what it used to be. I'm sorry to say, your $$$ doesn't justify knowing someones history, it simply *allows* you to purchase that persons time, that's it. We as providers ARE NOT obligated to tell anyone anything about our pasts, our surgeries, our families, our scars, our education, etc..

Well providers do have screening forms asking to know information about their intended clients.

Involving race, age and social habits etc.

I believe a transgendered individual in this biz should for both parties be forthcoming to avoid any potential conflict.

Having said that I could care less in a trans came into the washroom with me.

And if I was attracted to someone who had transitioned then I would definitely entertain the idea of being with them.

There's far larger things to occupy my mind with than this.
 

Prim0

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Joined Jun 29, 2010
Messages 10,859
Maybe it is a phobia.....men have issues with having sex with a woman who used to be a man. Perhaps women don't care in the same way but the truth is that men are generally like this.

I think that an open dialogue is what can change things for individuals and societies. There should be no shame in changing your physical gender. It's the individual's body and they can do what they want with it. But there should also be understanding of how that will affect others. Just saying that it should be accepted doesn't mean that it will be. In a sense, a trans-gendered provider or client who doesn't reveal the change could be messing with the other person's psyche. There's more to it than just changing hair color or weight....there are societal norms that we all grew up with and right or wrong, they are part of how people understand the world. Switch it up on them and there's going to be a reaction. Some might be okay with it and others might feel betrayed. So I'm not saying right or wrong......just that there should be understanding from both sides.



As for "everyone" paying for the procedures.....I don't know if Canada's health program covers gender reassignment surgery as elective or not. I can see arguments for it being treated either way. But if it is covered, then everyone who pays taxes into the health system is paying for "it". If it's considered an "elective" procedure (because it's not medically necessary to save a life or whatever) then it probably shouldn't be covered any more than a facelift, breast enhancement or penile enhancement surgery should be. If you want those things, pay for them yourselves. I can see that gender reassignment has a mental component to it and I feel for people that feel they were born the wrong gender. Therefore, if those mental issues with gender can lead to serious mental health issues that can be solved by the procedure then I can see how some would be okay with covering it.

*My opinion on health care is that people should take care of their own......only in elective procedures do we see free market influences which bring prices down while increasing efficacy. Meanwhile, everything tied to government health coverage or even with private insurance goes up.



So....if someone has gender reassignment surgery and they feel okay about it. Why should they feel any need to hide it from potential sex partners? Give the partner a chance to decide for themselves how they feel about it.
 
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cristycurves

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This is the problem, so my desire to only be intimate with a natural born female is not important.

I have no rights to who I choose to have a sexual encounter with?

As a heterosexual male why are my rights eroded and crushed by the politically correct left and why is this ok?



I don't deprive anyone to be who they want to be but I believe I do have a right to say whom I choose to be intimate with.

I'm not saying you don't have rights, you and everyone else ALREADY freely chooses who they see, BUT should you choose someone who has transitioned I believe *it is up to them*, it's not their duty or necessity to tell you or anyone else what sex they used to be and that's not because I feel they should hide it, it just simply should be up to each individual to decide whether or not they want to disclose it. What is right or wrong, who knows, and quite frankly I don't care:) I suppose if some of you are so afraid of possibly having sex with a former male or female, don't hobby:) it's that simple
@Maurice-There is a big difference between a provider screening for safety reasons and another demanding disclosure to make sure someone is a natural born male or female!
Btw, I've never asked a gentleman's race when screening. I simply require proof of identify to verify they're an actual person and would be a compatible date. Would I be less attractive to some of them had I once had a penis, who knows, but if I had and no one could tell, then what the difference? I used to thinner, younger and much shyer, probably much better looking....I probably would have been a much more successful escort with those traits, so should I inform my clients of those changes, or is this just about genitalia and phobias about homophobia, me thinks so:)?
 

Canada-Man

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Joined Apr 16, 2015
Messages 2,224
Prin0 says

Maybe it is a phobia.....men have issues with having sex with a woman who used to be a man. Perhaps women don't care in the same way but the truth is that men are generally like this.

are you saying that straight men have no right to their sexual preferences of biological born females? that is what you are saying. women who are straight also have the same preferences of biological men. it's not a phobia it's a sexual preferences according to you straight men don't have a right to their preference.
 

Canada-Man

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Joined Apr 16, 2015
Messages 2,224
This is the problem, so my desire to only be intimate with a natural born female is not important.

I have no rights to who I choose to have a sexual encounter with?

As a heterosexual male why are my rights eroded and crushed by the politically correct left and why is this ok?

I don't deprive anyone to be who they want to be but I believe I do have a right to say whom I choose to be intimate with.



the left is anti heterosexual

i cover this on my blog
 
Joined Sep 10, 2015
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Prin0 says



are you saying that straight men have no right to their sexual preferences of biological born females? that is what you are saying. women who are straight also have the same preferences of biological men. it's not a phobia it's a sexual preferences according to you straight men don't have a right to their preference.

Its not Primo's fault. He is trying to be polite toward Cristy. Cristy is the one who is throwing the shaming words around. Leftists do this often - shame others into following their way by calling them phobic on everything they don't support.

I have a question for the shamers (not just Christy but shamers in general):

If a man who is turned off by a tranny is considered transphobic, does that also mean that a vegetarian is merely suffering from carniphobia?
If a leftist doesn't support capitalism, do they suffer from privatecapitalphobia?

Many people don't support Islam or Christianity. Are they phobic and should they be shamed for this?
 

JunoxGrey

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Its not Primo's fault. He is trying to be polite toward Cristy. Cristy is the one who is throwing the shaming words around. Leftists do this often - shame others into following their way by calling them phobic on everything they don't support.

I have a question for the shamers (not just Christy but shamers in general):

If a man who is turned off by a tranny is considered transphobic, does that also mean that a vegetarian is merely suffering from carniphobia?
If a leftist doesn't support capitalism, do they suffer from privatecapitalphobia?

Many people don't support Islam or Christianity. Are they phobic and should they be shamed for this?




no, but using deragatory works to describe someone of a group of people who are transgendered that is transphobia. It is someone's HEALTH and BODY. Not religion, not politics, not race. You have to also realize, transgendered people or even homosexual people are not pushing it at your kids, they deal with enough of this bullshit on a day or day basis and want to get treated like a normal human being. I can sympathize, I'm a provider, but I'm lucky enough I can hide it through day to day life. You have to understand how tough it must be to put on an act and be someone you're not day after day, how uncomfortable you would feel. That's the reality.
 

StephieScarlet

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No matter how people on the left want to proclaim the possibility of Religious conversion, your religion doesn't change. Your behaviour can change and you can make alterations to your place of worship as well as your prayers, but your religion will always be what you were born with. If you were born with a star of david, you are a jew. If a cross, you are a christian.

Fucking ridiculous.

https://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf

People who believe they are a different religion are free to believe, but facts are facts. A jew will never be a christian.
 

JessieJames

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Joined Dec 31, 2013
Messages 775
No matter how people on the left want to proclaim the possibility of Religious conversion, your religion doesn't change. Your behaviour can change and you can make alterations to your place of worship as well as your prayers, but your religion will always be what you were born with. If you were born with a star of david, you are a jew. If a cross, you are a christian.

Fucking ridiculous.

https://www.greatwar.nl/books/meinkampf/meinkampf.pdf

People who believe they are a different religion are free to believe, but facts are facts. A jew will never be a christian.

Welcome on board and at least it might shed some light and understanding hearing from someone with first hand knowledge feelings and insight. It's debates like this that all can learn from.
 

JessieJames

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Joined Dec 31, 2013
Messages 775
I'm not saying you don't have rights, you and everyone else ALREADY freely chooses who they see, BUT should you choose someone who has transitioned *would we choose them if we knew* I believe *it is up to them**but we have no say or choice because we were decieved?*, it's not their duty or necessity to tell you or anyone else what sex they used to be and that's not because I feel they should hide it, it just simply be up to each individual to decide whether or not they want to disclose it. *but the fact I want to have sex only with a person born a woman means nothing?*What is right or wrong, who knows, and quite frankly I don't care:) *you maybe don't but that 6ft 4 angry guy that just found out and is livid might care quite a bit* I suppose if some of you are so afraid of possibly having sex with a former male or female, don't hobby:) it's that simple
@Maurice-There is a big difference between a provider screening for safety reasons and another demanding disclosure to make sure someone is a natural born male or female! *I've been asked my age and my ethnicity by some independents during screening which was ok with me but it's not my business to know they were born a different gender?*
Btw, I've never asked a gentleman's race when screening. I simply require proof of identify to verify they're an actual person and would be a compatible date. Would I be less attractive to some of them had I once had a penis, who knows, but if I had and no one could tell, then what the difference? I used to thinner, younger and much shyer, probably much better looking....*based on your pics we can see you have a very good body, you've disclosed many times you are mature, you love animals and are very passionate about it. Anyone booking you knows what they are paying for and there is nothing hidden, we see what we are getting right? If one doesn't like manmades he might not choose to use your services and he's given that choice just from seeing your pics*I probably would have been a much more successful escort with those traits, so should I inform my clients of those changes, or is this just about genitalia and phobias about homophobia, me thinks so:)?

Absolutely it is about genitalia. I choose to have sex with women because I enjoy the female genitalia. I have nothing against a transgender or T-girl, as a matter of fact I believe it is a niche market with a demand for it but that demand should come from informed individuals who make the choice not men or women who do not and are duped because of a talented surgeon.

It is the same with some do not like ladies with tattoos, piercings, short hair, curvy, skinny, bbw, it's choices, it's tastes that both men and women have and have a right to have.
 
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cristycurves

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@Jesse- then if it is all about genitalia, what is the problem, from my understanding when a vagina is converted to a penis and a penis to a vagina, you can't tell. A converted penis is then a vagina, which is female genitalia. So many are whining about something they haven't even experienced or will experience.....perhaps we should make it a rule that when booking we all have to send one another dick and pussy pics to seal the date!! :no::no:
As far as rights, I'm sick of those saying it's their right to choose....it's a stupid statement because and once again you ALL ALREADY FREELY CHOOSE your dates. You can have sex with whomever YOU CHOOSE!!(as long as that person is willing and of age)When you choose, ask the right questions, check their pics, verify their details, those are the same steps we have to take as providers.As providers when we mistake an asshole for a dick, we have to live with the consequences. There are no rules or laws or no guys posting or telling us upfront that they're the types to play games, be no shows, be violent, abusive, cheap, etc, etc. AGAIN, WE ALL CHOOSE OUR DATES!! We are all responsible for the choices we make!! But NO ONE is OBLIGATED, there are NO RULES or Laws to cause someone to HAVE TO publish or VERBALLY state what they USED to be!! NOR IMO SHOULD THERE BE. Quit sucking your thumbs and worrying that your precious penises may enter a lovely vagina that was once a dick, because it probably will never happen and if it did...be grateful that someone wanted to fuck you!
@Mal-who do you think will take any of your posts seriously after the other thread you started-https://www.caerf.ca/community/showthread.php?105581-Discalimer-going-forward
 

Madman

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This is a really good debate and Cristy were you on the high-school debate club?:biggrin2:

Hi yum yum....that's all....
 

Prim0

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Joined Jun 29, 2010
Messages 10,859
I don't have expert knowledge on the subject. But I believe that when a penis is converted to a vagina, there is no tissue there to provide lubrication as a natural vagina does. But that's just technical stuff.




Look, guys are brought up to think that any kind of homosexual activity is wrong and if they participate in it then they "have" some form of it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying that it exists. A guy who finds out after the fact that his partner was once a man is going to have some issues. I can't think of an equivalent situation for women but I'm sure there's something out there.



Canada man.....I think you missed my point. Everyone has a choice. I'm saying that men's choices are influenced by "societal norms". I'll admit that having sex with a transgendered woman (former man) is offputting to me. It may be labeled as homophobic....so be it. I might be missing out on a great thing.....so be it.


It just seems to me, that with male homophobia what it is, a transgendered escort should inform her customers. A guy can probably get right past exaggerations of age, weight, looks, etc. But gender....it carries more weight. (again...right or wrong)
 

Duhhh

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