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Joined Sep 10, 2015
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People constantly target the police and spew hatred against them when citizens are abused by the initial arm of the law. But, in fact, it is the government that people should be angry with, not the police. Yes, the police abuse people. But, the police are only doing what they are instructed and allowed to do by government. Politicians write the laws that allow police to abuse citizens. You can argue that police are inherently evil for wanting to carry out abuse on behalf of their employers, but solving the evil of government will solve the evil that is the police.

If the government wanted the abuse to stop, government would change the laws, reduce the number of laws and change the rules of interaction for police officers. But government writes more laws every year, not less of them.

If the government wanted the police to punch every second person in the mouth that they encountered, the government would pass that law and the police would enforce such a law. The police are as soliders and do whatever they are commanded to do.

The Freddy Gray case:

Paralyzed by police officers based upon being stopped and detained on 'reasonable suspicion'.

Reasonable suspicion can mean anything the government wants it to mean.
 

Madman

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Joined Aug 12, 2011
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MisterAsianLover said:
People constantly target the police and spew hatred against them when citizens are abused by the initial arm of the law. But, in fact, it is the government that people should be angry with, not the police. Yes, the police abuse people. But, the police are only doing what they are instructed and allowed to do by government. Politicians write the laws that allow police to abuse citizens. You can argue that police are inherently evil for wanting to carry out abuse on behalf of their employers, but solving the evil of government will solve the evil that is the police.

If the government wanted the abuse to stop, government would change the laws, reduce the number of laws and change the rules of interaction for police officers. But government writes more laws every year, not less of them.

If the government wanted the police to punch every second person in the mouth that they encountered, the government would pass that law and the police would enforce such a law. The police are as soliders and do whatever they are commanded to do.

The Freddy Gray case:

Paralyzed by police officers based upon being stopped and detained on 'reasonable suspicion'.

Reasonable suspicion can mean anything the government wants it to mean.

The difference today is video by smart phone but honestly in 99% of the time, if one is polite when approached by an officer it does not result in violence of any kind.
 
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Madman said:
The difference today is video by smart phone but honestly in 99% of the time, if one is polite when approached by an officer it does not result in violence of any kind.

If Hillary Clinton is approached by a police officer, nothing will happen to her. If Freddy Gray is approached by a police officer, different story.

The police claim he ran after they made 'eye contact with him' - total bullshit.
 
B

Boing

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MisterAsianLover said:
If Hillary Clinton is approached by a police officer, nothing will happen to her. If Freddy Gray is approached by a police officer, different story.

The police claim he ran after they made 'eye contact with him' - total bullshit.

If the police approaches me I show them my hump and they run.


Very fast.
 
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Officer charged with his murder was found not guilty.

So, the officer claimed Freddy Gray ran from him after they made 'eye contact'. Then, the police chased him, beat him up so bad that he sustained spinal cord injuries and died.

That's nice. Dead man and police officer found 'not guilty'.
 
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BTW, it is being reported that Freddy Gray had drug charges against him - multiple ones.

Well, if Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama all admitted to past drug use, why should we put them in the White House but kill the young man (any dealer) who supplied them with the drugs?

Interesting.
 

Creepy

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Joined Mar 1, 2011
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MisterAsianLover said:
Well, if Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama all admitted to past drug use, why should we put them in the White House but kill the young man (any dealer) who supplied them with the drugs?

Interesting.

But they didn't inhale :aggressive2:
 

Sebastian

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Joined Aug 6, 2011
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Dunno about this one, judge may be bias towards you know what race.

Baltimore City Circuit Court Judge Barry Williams, who heard the case in a bench trial, told a packed courtroom that Nero, 30, had acted as any officer would have during Gray's arrest in April 2015.
 

DonCorleo

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Joined Apr 9, 2011
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Sebastian said:
Dunno about this one, judge may be bias towards you know what race.

Baltimore City Circuit Court Judge Barry Williams, who heard the case in a bench trial, told a packed courtroom that Nero, 30, had acted as any officer would have during Gray's arrest in April 2015.


Here is the judge you doorknob.

 
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Oilcan said:

The officer and his colleagues claim that Freddy Gray was arrested - without incident - and put in the van awaiting their return. The officers claim that Freddy caused his own paralysis by trying to escape custody from inside the van.

The witnesses at the scene claim that the police beat Freddy Gray and that Gray couldn't walk or stand because he was injured so badly.

Freddy Gray ended up dieing from paralysis after his interaction with the police. Which version of events - the police or the witnesses' version - is more likely to have happened, given that Gray died from paralysis?

Common sense and honesty with oneself would lead 99.99% of the public to conclude that the police killed Freddy Gray.
 
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Remember, the police instigated this entire death scene by 'making eye contact' with the suspect.

Moral of the story: Don't every make eye contact with the police, because they can kill you for it.
 
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The medical examiner determined that Freddy Gray's spine was 80% severed at the neck. The examiner stated that such an injury would be equated to being hit by a car.

How can the judge accept the officer's story that they didn't attack him? Does the judge believe that Mr. Gray self-inflicted such injuries? How does a suspect sever their own spine while in handcuffs?

It always makes me laugh when reviewing resumes and seeing some applicants put a Police Officer as a character/moral reference.
 
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