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Some of you might have seen the story on 60 minutes last night. This is pretty amazing stuff.

Some doctor got the idea that polio might be able to get inside of a brain tumor and kill the cancer. Brain cancer is super deadly, with only months to live. So, at Duke University they have been doing tests for a while on humans by injecting polio into their brain tumors and then letting it go to work. The results have been nothing but amazing. And when coupled with chemo after the polio injections, the tumors just almost vanish. Now they have had a few setbacks (deaths), but they have had more success than anything.

The FDA is so amazed by it that they have given it "Breakthrough status". In other words, they think its money. Now they are thinking that this same method might could be used on all kinds of cancers in the body.

Every once in a while, a story comes through 60 Minutes that has the potential to change lives. This week, Scott Pelley's report on a new medical treatment using the polio virus to kill cancer is that kind of story.
Most people remember polio as the scourge that paralyzed millions of children until a vaccine was developed in the 1950s. Now, researchers atare injecting a modified polio virus directly into deadly brain tumors. The research is still in early stages and Duke doctors warn that it's impossible to predict how effective the polio treatment will be in a wider population, but they've seen some stunning results in their Phase 1 trial.

"One of the scientists told me it takes a killer to kill a killer," says Michael Radutzky, one of the60 Minutes producers behind the story. "And that's when I started to appreciate that if you're going to kill something as formidable and hydra-headed as cancer, you needed an agent that could do major damage."
Radutzky has been following cancer patients undergoing experimental treatments for more than 30 years for CBS News. And he says reporting on cancer is often very personal for the reporter.
"Everybody knows someone who has cancer," Radutzky tells Ann Silvio of 60 Minutes Overtime (in the above video player). "I've had multiple members of my family die. I've had friends die."

Jeff's father, Dr. Charles Fager, was a prominent neurosurgeon in Massachusetts, well known for his innovative surgical techniques, but Jeff says his father wouldn't operate on glioblastoma.
"He didn't think it was operable, and he didn't want to put people through the suffering of what comes with surgery and chemo and radiation," Fager says.
Dr. Fager died a year ago, at age 90, around the time 60 Minutes began shooting this week's story on the polio trials at Duke University. Jeff Fager tells 60 Minutes Overtime that he wished his dad had lived long enough to see the story.
"If my father was alive to see this 60 Minutes story, he would find it hard to believe because it is such a powerful cancer that is unstoppable," Fager says.
And yet, at Duke University, the polio virus appears to be stopping glioblastoma. The first two patients in Duke's phase one clinical trial are cancer-free three years after receiving the infusion of polio virus.

Radutzky says the researchers involved with the glioblastoma trial are very optimistic behind-the-scenes.
"You know, they whisper about a 'cure' but doctors just can't use words like that with patients, especially at such an early stage," says Radutzky. "But words like 'remission' and 'cancer-free,' they're not even hedging on those words."
After Radutzky and fellow producer Denise Cetta first screened their story about the polio treatment for executive producers at 60 Minutes, Fager told them to stay on the story.
"Stay on it. Don't leave it," Fager recalls saying to the producers. "We should do another version in the fall. We should keep watching it. Who knows how many stories we'll end up doing on this subject, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's many."

The video feature in the above video player was produced by 60 Minutes Overtime producer-editor Lisa Orlando and senior producer Ann Silvio.
Joined Aug 18, 2010
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They were attempting to hijack the polio virus's ingenious way of naturally attacking things in the body. Sort of using it like a ninja. But what they didn't realize, and it was just kind of an added bonus, was that once the polio got inside the patients, their body's immune system went "WAIT A SECOND.

WHAT IN THE FUCK?" and so the immune system puts out an all hands on deck thing and gets a bunch of T cells (that's science for lymphocyte of a type produced or processed by the thymus gland) that start bombarding shit and stuff.

Plus these T cells remember this shit for a long time. so after the cancer is gone, if it tries to come back they are ready.

In normal cancer, without the polio, the immune system just kind of lays around without any fucks given. The polio makes it get in on things.


Joined Jun 29, 2010
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We'll have a solution eventually. All diseases will have a cure.....though the disease of liberalism seems to be the toughest. :wink2:
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Joined Jun 19, 2011
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Any doctors in the house?.

Yes. There are two sides to every story, and the press tends to only cover one side. Anything that triggers immune reponses can help against cancer, but that doesn't mean it's a cure. Glioblastomas have been the subject of research since I started doing clinical oncological research in 1983, so this ain't new.

Case in point: it appears that having herpes or HPV can actually trigger immune responses to prevent the buildup of tau proteins (plaque) in the brain, preventing the onset of Alzheimers. What the press fails to add is: sometimes, under some circumstances, with some people. In others, it has no effect, and the JPV can actually trigger cancer.


Joined Jun 29, 2010
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It's not news or journalism any's sensationalism to get viewership and sell ads.

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