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It amazes me that people don't carry handguns for their own, personal, protection in the U.S.

I have my restricted arms licence, but I don't carry on me in Ontario for obvious reasons.

A bar in Florida had 50 people shot - many will obviously die - yet I am perplexed as to why people call the police for protection against a gunman instead of shooting the gunman themselves.

Makes no sense at all.

Eventually, those on the left will come to their senses - I hope.

The government is blaming a Muslim for the violence, but I tend to think it is the government that is orchestrating these mass shootings.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html
 

Anonymous69

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Joined May 28, 2013
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[h=1]Orlando Gay Nightclub Mass Shooting: At Least 50 DEAD, 53 Wounded - Police Press Conference, Florida[/h]
 

Hoser

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Messages 650
Just because he saw two men kissing. Wow and some of you here take it to the extreme when a little troll says something.
 
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I will never understand why people feel the need to kill innocent strangers just because they're pissed off at someone else.
 

S C I

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Joined Jun 13, 2014
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That is him. Was he rejected by the NYPD?

Mental illness is a problem.

It's a hate crime, not terrorism BTW.

 

DonCorleo

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yet I am perplexed as to why people call the police for protection against a gunman instead of shooting the gunman themselves.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html

Brings up a touchy subject. People will ignore laws making guns illegal. It's already happening in some liberal states where people are not turning in their "illegal" weapons.

The problem with simply making them illegal is it does not stop the criminal element from getting guns. Confiscation would require many provisions of the Constitution to be completely trampled over. This is the discussion that anti-gun people will not go into when you bring it up.


It's funny because a lot of these same people hate and do not trust the Police and with confiscation they would need to put much more responsibility into their hands.

If you make it legal is another subject to discuss that can go on forever.

 

dreamblade

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Nothing base or vile surprises me about the US anymore.

As for people carrying guns willy-nilly. Just no. That's already pretty much what the US has and here is the latest example of the result. Firearms belong in the hands of trained professionals only.

Just because someone has access to a tool, does not make them qualified to use it.

Case in point: I just fought for the first time in over a decade. I've been training for the last 2 years to get back into shape, and have even started teaching. But I haven't had any chances to spar at my level. The result: I did ok, but got trounced in my 4th match by a dude of equivalent experience who is currently competing. He was used to operating in this environment whereas I only vaguely remembered how.

That principle is dead on for hand-to-hand, sticks, blades, and firearms. If you're not used to a scenario, your reactions will be unpredictable. You might fight back, or you might freeze, or you might dissolve in a sobbing puddle. Anyone who claims different is fooling themselves.
 

Skipper

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Joined Mar 25, 2011
Messages 793
50 confirmed dead.

And

Orlando shooting suspect Omar Mateen was interviewed by the FBI in 2013 and 2014, FBI Assistant Special Agent Ronald Hopper told reporters Sunday. "Those interviews turned out to be inconclusive, so there was nothing to keep the investigation going," Hopper said. Mateen was not under investigation at the time of Sunday's shooting and was not under surveillance, Hopper said.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
 

JohnLurk

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Joined Jun 1, 2016
Messages 31
Nothing base or vile surprises me about the US anymore.

As for people carrying guns willy-nilly. Just no. That's already pretty much what the US has and here is the latest example of the result. Firearms belong in the hands of trained professionals only.

Just because someone has access to a tool, does not make them qualified to use it.

Case in point: I just fought for the first time in over a decade. I've been training for the last 2 years to get back into shape, and have even started teaching. But I haven't had any chances to spar at my level. The result: I did ok, but got trounced in my 4th match by a dude of equivalent experience who is currently competing. He was used to operating in this environment whereas I only vaguely remembered how.

That principle is dead on for hand-to-hand, sticks, blades, and firearms. If you're not used to a scenario, your reactions will be unpredictable. You might fight back, or you might freeze, or you might dissolve in a sobbing puddle. Anyone who claims different is fooling themselves.


Praise-Bowing
 

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Joined Jan 24, 2011
Messages 639


NBC News obtained a statement this morning from the father of Omar Mateen, the individual identified as the Orlando nightclub shooter.

He said, “We are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren’t aware of any action he was taking. We are in shock, like the whole country.”

The father also said this had nothing to do with religion, though he did claim that his son was “angry when he saw two men kissing in downtown Miami a couple months ago” and that may have been why he targeted a gay nightclub.
 

Chongqing

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Joined Aug 26, 2015
Messages 32
A Muslim kills 50 gays. I don't have a dog in this fight so I don't care.

This is how degenerate civilization has become with multiculturalism and liberalism. I don't care about anything anymore except pussy.
 
Joined Sep 10, 2015
Messages 1,482
Nothing base or vile surprises me about the US anymore.

As for people carrying guns willy-nilly. Just no. That's already pretty much what the US has and here is the latest example of the result. Firearms belong in the hands of trained professionals only.

Just because someone has access to a tool, does not make them qualified to use it.

Case in point: I just fought for the first time in over a decade. I've been training for the last 2 years to get back into shape, and have even started teaching. But I haven't had any chances to spar at my level. The result: I did ok, but got trounced in my 4th match by a dude of equivalent experience who is currently competing. He was used to operating in this environment whereas I only vaguely remembered how.

That principle is dead on for hand-to-hand, sticks, blades, and firearms. If you're not used to a scenario, your reactions will be unpredictable. You might fight back, or you might freeze, or you might dissolve in a sobbing puddle. Anyone who claims different is fooling themselves.

In North Korea, only the government has the right to carry guns. It has worked out well so far. Same as with China and every other dictatorial, killing regime.

Guns protect us from government, most importantly.
 
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A Muslim kills 50 gays. I don't have a dog in this fight so I don't care.

This is how degenerate civilization has become with multiculturalism and liberalism. I don't care about anything anymore except pussy.

We have access to info about murders, wars, terrorist attacks, epidemics, and catastrophic events that happen all over the world every minute of every day ... it's hard to know what to care about and what to ignore anymore.
 

TommyJohn

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Joined Jan 21, 2014
Messages 235
Holy woa!


[h=1]Gays Must Die Says Speaker At Orlando Mosque - WFTV 9 Orlando Report[/h]



 

ThePunisher

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Joined Aug 24, 2013
Messages 217
$100,000 already donated for the victims. Death toll is now 59, 9 of the victims have died in the hospital.
 

Cooldaddy

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Joined Feb 10, 2012
Messages 211
CNN's coverage has been pretty disgusting.

They were standing outside of the medical center basically asking people if they know whether or not their friends are dead.
 

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